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	<title>Comments on: San Telmo or Palermo Soho: Traditional vs. Modern</title>
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		<title>By: Angela @SanTelmoLoft</title>
		<link>http://santelmoloft.com/2008/03/31/san-telmo-or-palermo-traditional-vs-modern/comment-page-1/#comment-7237</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela @SanTelmoLoft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 02:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there Vivi. I loved your post about teaching English here in Argentina. Thanks so much for stopping by and for voting for San Telmo :) Of course it&#039;s my favorite neighborhood but most expats seem to prefer Palermo. I guess we&#039;re lucky we have both. Two fantastic neighborhoods in one amazing city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there Vivi. I loved your post about teaching English here in Argentina. Thanks so much for stopping by and for voting for San Telmo <img src='http://santelmoloft.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Of course it&#8217;s my favorite neighborhood but most expats seem to prefer Palermo. I guess we&#8217;re lucky we have both. Two fantastic neighborhoods in one amazing city.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivi @ My.Beautiful.Air</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivi @ My.Beautiful.Air</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 19:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, San Telmo is the place to be - it has the real spirit of romance and charm in the city.  Palermo is a nice place to visit for the day, but it can&#039;t compare!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, San Telmo is the place to be &#8211; it has the real spirit of romance and charm in the city.  Palermo is a nice place to visit for the day, but it can&#8217;t compare!</p>
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		<title>By: Fabian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You´re welcome Angela. I love the Jewish eateries in Once as well. One of my favorites is Sucath David, on Tucuman 2349.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You´re welcome Angela. I love the Jewish eateries in Once as well. One of my favorites is Sucath David, on Tucuman 2349.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela @SanTelmoLoft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela @SanTelmoLoft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for these great recommendations, Fabian! So many other really cool neighborhoods to explore here, and each with its own personality. I love Once&#039;s Jewish delis and crowded streets. When you get a chance to look up, the architecture is stunning but you wouldn&#039;t see it normally because you&#039;re stuck in pedestrian traffic. It&#039;s a bit like a bazaar or souk in the Middle East. And Barracas... I&#039;m so hoping they&#039;ll save that neighborhood because some developers are coming in and knocking down buildings to put in really hideous towers. There are still a few barrios I need to explore, but they&#039;re the ones further out. BA is huge!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for these great recommendations, Fabian! So many other really cool neighborhoods to explore here, and each with its own personality. I love Once&#8217;s Jewish delis and crowded streets. When you get a chance to look up, the architecture is stunning but you wouldn&#8217;t see it normally because you&#8217;re stuck in pedestrian traffic. It&#8217;s a bit like a bazaar or souk in the Middle East. And Barracas&#8230; I&#8217;m so hoping they&#8217;ll save that neighborhood because some developers are coming in and knocking down buildings to put in really hideous towers. There are still a few barrios I need to explore, but they&#8217;re the ones further out. BA is huge!</p>
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		<title>By: Fabian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having lived in Buenos Aires for 17 years now, born here and raised in Sydney, Australia, I have to say that if you want to experience the true spirit of Buenos Aires, San Telmo definitely wins hands down... One also needs to get out of the international touristy BA (4 or 5 barrios only, bear in mind Buenos Aires has 48) and wonder into other neighborhoods: Barracas is quintessential Buenos Aires without fast food, sushi or meals served in square plates, Montserrat is next to San Telmo and is the city`s first barrio, full of character and with some of the city`s oldest churches and public buildings. The garment district, Once, is chaotic, kind of dirty but with a pulsating beat and coincidentally, amazing architecture on Avenida Rivadavia and Hipolito Yrigoyen, just look up instead of straight ahead!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having lived in Buenos Aires for 17 years now, born here and raised in Sydney, Australia, I have to say that if you want to experience the true spirit of Buenos Aires, San Telmo definitely wins hands down&#8230; One also needs to get out of the international touristy BA (4 or 5 barrios only, bear in mind Buenos Aires has 48) and wonder into other neighborhoods: Barracas is quintessential Buenos Aires without fast food, sushi or meals served in square plates, Montserrat is next to San Telmo and is the city`s first barrio, full of character and with some of the city`s oldest churches and public buildings. The garment district, Once, is chaotic, kind of dirty but with a pulsating beat and coincidentally, amazing architecture on Avenida Rivadavia and Hipolito Yrigoyen, just look up instead of straight ahead!</p>
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		<title>By: Angela @SanTelmoLoft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela @SanTelmoLoft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear ya. I&#039;m like you in that I prefer places with a bit of grit, too. I can see why that might sound like I&#039;m favoring San Telmo over Palermo if people like you are my audience. I&#039;d love to go to Lima. So many great places to see in South America!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear ya. I&#8217;m like you in that I prefer places with a bit of grit, too. I can see why that might sound like I&#8217;m favoring San Telmo over Palermo if people like you are my audience. I&#8217;d love to go to Lima. So many great places to see in South America!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Touché.

Actually you did make it clear that it was a matter of taste and traveling style.  I suppose as a younger, backpackey, lonely planet-style traveler myself, and most of my traveling friends being the same way, I read into the post and interpreted the &quot;riffraff&quot; and &quot;fancy table settings&quot; comments as a sort of &quot;well, it&#039;s all well and good if you like the [insert word of choice here: resort/pampered/socialite/fine living] experience of Palermo, but I&#039;ll take the nitty gritty and authenticity of a San Telmo any day.&quot;

I actually love both kinds of neighbourhood too, which is why I&#039;m sometimes defensive of the more chic and cosmopolitan ones--I get paranoid that those who only like the &quot;real, genuine&quot; ones assume the worst of me for liking trendy and modern settings too.  When I was in Lima I loved the Historic center and the neighbourhood of Barranco, but I also enjoyed the more upscale and shopping-oriented Miraflores, and found myself defending it from another American traveler who saw it as too chic and superficial.  I love contrast in a city, and the convenience of being able to match your mood to a particular area of the city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Touché.</p>
<p>Actually you did make it clear that it was a matter of taste and traveling style.  I suppose as a younger, backpackey, lonely planet-style traveler myself, and most of my traveling friends being the same way, I read into the post and interpreted the &#8220;riffraff&#8221; and &#8220;fancy table settings&#8221; comments as a sort of &#8220;well, it&#8217;s all well and good if you like the [insert word of choice here: resort/pampered/socialite/fine living] experience of Palermo, but I&#8217;ll take the nitty gritty and authenticity of a San Telmo any day.&#8221;</p>
<p>I actually love both kinds of neighbourhood too, which is why I&#8217;m sometimes defensive of the more chic and cosmopolitan ones&#8211;I get paranoid that those who only like the &#8220;real, genuine&#8221; ones assume the worst of me for liking trendy and modern settings too.  When I was in Lima I loved the Historic center and the neighbourhood of Barranco, but I also enjoyed the more upscale and shopping-oriented Miraflores, and found myself defending it from another American traveler who saw it as too chic and superficial.  I love contrast in a city, and the convenience of being able to match your mood to a particular area of the city.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela @SanTelmoLoft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela @SanTelmoLoft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I might have to disagree with you on this (at least about the biased part). When I wrote this, I was thinking of my aunt and uncle who&#039;d just come to visit. They stayed in Palermo Soho and would have hated staying in San Telmo. They would have found San Telmo too congested and a bit dirty. And they wanted to eat in fancy restaurants, drink good wine, and shop. Palermo Soho was perfect for them. When I wrote this, I was living in Palermo. I really wanted to describe the two places fairly because if you like fancy restaurants and shopping, you should stay in Palermo. A lot of people have compared the two barrios to Sausalito (Palermo Soho) and The Mission (San Telmo) in San Francisco. That may be a better comparison than Miami and New Orleans. 

You&#039;ll certainly notice more tourists in San Telmo than Palermo, but I always feel like I hear more English in Palermo than in San Telmo. It&#039;s more likely expats than tourists, but I just don&#039;t think Palermo Soho is very traditional. Probably it&#039;s more like you say... well-dressed Argentines mixed with a lot of expats. And Palermo is huge, so if you head out of the more touristy parts like Soho and Hollywood, you can definitely find traditional bodegas and parillas. That&#039;s why I focused on Palermo Soho. I think it&#039;s almost as touristy as San Telmo, but with a different vibe.

Personally, I like both and I would never tell someone which place they should stay because they&#039;re so different. You really have to know what it is you&#039;re looking for in order to decide. That&#039;s what I was trying to do in the post (make it clear what the differences are without bias because who wants to stay in the wrong part of town while on vacation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I might have to disagree with you on this (at least about the biased part). When I wrote this, I was thinking of my aunt and uncle who&#8217;d just come to visit. They stayed in Palermo Soho and would have hated staying in San Telmo. They would have found San Telmo too congested and a bit dirty. And they wanted to eat in fancy restaurants, drink good wine, and shop. Palermo Soho was perfect for them. When I wrote this, I was living in Palermo. I really wanted to describe the two places fairly because if you like fancy restaurants and shopping, you should stay in Palermo. A lot of people have compared the two barrios to Sausalito (Palermo Soho) and The Mission (San Telmo) in San Francisco. That may be a better comparison than Miami and New Orleans. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ll certainly notice more tourists in San Telmo than Palermo, but I always feel like I hear more English in Palermo than in San Telmo. It&#8217;s more likely expats than tourists, but I just don&#8217;t think Palermo Soho is very traditional. Probably it&#8217;s more like you say&#8230; well-dressed Argentines mixed with a lot of expats. And Palermo is huge, so if you head out of the more touristy parts like Soho and Hollywood, you can definitely find traditional bodegas and parillas. That&#8217;s why I focused on Palermo Soho. I think it&#8217;s almost as touristy as San Telmo, but with a different vibe.</p>
<p>Personally, I like both and I would never tell someone which place they should stay because they&#8217;re so different. You really have to know what it is you&#8217;re looking for in order to decide. That&#8217;s what I was trying to do in the post (make it clear what the differences are without bias because who wants to stay in the wrong part of town while on vacation?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, do I sense a bias in favor of San Telmo here?  I actually prefer it, too--BUT, I feel it is only fair to mention that it also has a much more touristy feel to it than Palermo Soho.  (Not that Palermo Soho is traditional Argentina, but it&#039;s geared to residents rather than tourists, albeit relatively well-off residents)

But then again if you&#039;re visiting Baires as a tourist, the touristy thing is probably what you want anyway... San Telmo is a beautiful, nostalgic, and fun neighborhood.  If I were sending a relative or friend to Buenos Aires, I&#039;d tell them to stay there, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, do I sense a bias in favor of San Telmo here?  I actually prefer it, too&#8211;BUT, I feel it is only fair to mention that it also has a much more touristy feel to it than Palermo Soho.  (Not that Palermo Soho is traditional Argentina, but it&#8217;s geared to residents rather than tourists, albeit relatively well-off residents)</p>
<p>But then again if you&#8217;re visiting Baires as a tourist, the touristy thing is probably what you want anyway&#8230; San Telmo is a beautiful, nostalgic, and fun neighborhood.  If I were sending a relative or friend to Buenos Aires, I&#8217;d tell them to stay there, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Soccer and Culture, Argentinean-style! — San Telmo Loft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soccer and Culture, Argentinean-style! — San Telmo Loft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 03:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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